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Transmission ID What Borg Warner T-10 is this?
My shifter is not lining up in the center of the console bezel - it seems about 1-2 inches too far to the left. Took a few pics of the transmission in this 77 TA - should all BW T-10 trannies fit the shifter in the console correctly - or in other words - is the shifter the incorrect part and that is the problem? Some heavy duty adjustable shifter rods are on it.
Also, check out the wacky aftermarket bell housing! |
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It was probably used for racing with the heavy duty linkages and the SFI blow-proof bellhousing.
I'd also say the shifter/mount is the reason it's offset. If it works good, I wouldn't worry about it?
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As he said most likely a racing shifter and most are "straight up" . Those are some hefty shifter rods! Factory shifters and installation kits offset it to the center more
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I see heavy duty aftermarket rods;
and aftermarket shifter plate - that plate is responsible for angling the shifter - it can angle it forward or rearward... As mentioned the aftermarket shifters use a shifter (chrome) stick mount which is vertical, while OE shifters use an angled mount; That shifter stick mount is the biggest factor for placing the stick left or right. When I got my car in 1995, it had an aftermarket Hurst Competition Plus shifter, and the "correct" chrome shifter stick for my setup; Even though the chrome stick was angled, my console could not be bolted up to the dash where it was supposed to be - AND use the plastic trim piece - as it appeared to have the console too far to the right (as viewed from the drivers seat) - I believe that the aftermarket HCP shifter setup requires one to ditch the console.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) Last edited by unruhjonny; 01-23-2024 at 04:39 PM. |
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When I got my car in 1995, it had an aftermarket Hurst Competition Plus shifter, and the "correct" chrome shifter stick for my setup;
Even though the chrome stick was angled, my console could not be bolted up to the dash where it was supposed to be - AND use the plastic trim piece - as it appeared to have the console too far to the right (as viewed from the drivers seat) - I believe that the aftermarket HCP shifter setup requires one to ditch the console.[/QUOTE] That is exactly what my problem is! Here's a photo of the shifter from inside the car looking down into the hump. Also, my transmission is a "Texas Transmission" aftetrmarket racing tranny. Cant find anything about them on line, but it looks exactly like the "G Force" transmission I have seen photos of on a couple of websites. |
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When I got my car in 1995, it had an aftermarket Hurst Competition Plus shifter, and the "correct" chrome shifter stick for my setup;
Even though the chrome stick was angled, my console could not be bolted up to the dash where it was supposed to be - AND use the plastic trim piece - as it appeared to have the console too far to the right (as viewed from the drivers seat) - I believe that the aftermarket HCP shifter setup requires one to ditch the console.[/QUOTE] My problem is it is too far to the left - someone had to modifity about 1/2 of an inch of the metal tunnel flange to make it work. Here's a photo of the shifter from inside the car looking down into the hump. Also, my transmission is a "Texas Transmission" aftetrmarket racing tranny. Cant find anything about them on line, but it looks exactly like the "G Force" transmission I have seen photos of on a couple of websites. |
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Your problem looks to be much worse than mine;
that shifter opening looks to have been hacked open to allow the shifter to stick through. My shifter opening was not modified. That thick aftermarket shifter mount would push your shifter to the left - exaggerating your problem; OEM shifter mounts were formed stamped steel.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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Got under the car and found out I have a Tex Racing Transmission - just like a G Force unit. My research shows these to be super heavy duty units intended for racing. I’ll be selling it and the SFI scattershield when I pull the engine and tranny out.
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