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My 1970 eprit 400 parts car or project
I bought this for some key parts but it's all there. I might build it into a formula clone or sell it after I swap and get needed parts. Im.not sure yet will decide by spring time.
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That’s great to have a parts car and room for it. Not easy to get these cars anymore that are complete and reasonably priced just for “parts”.
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1970 esprit
Thanks . I was told it runs but knocks
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Instead of a 'clone' how about just an Esprit with a Formula hood, if that's what look you had in mind? No need to sell it as something it isn't with included disclaimers, a worthy vehicle regardless, classic Firebird.
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If it's a factory Esprit 400 (which presumably it was if it had a 12-bolt in it), that's a pretty rare car in its own right.
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keith k 70 Trans Am RA III / T400 / Lucerne Blue / Bright Blue 70 Trans Am RA III / M20 / Lucerne Blue / Sandalwood 70 Formula RA III / M21 / Lucerne Blue / Bright Blue |
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My 70 esprit
Yes it has the 307 rear end I believe it was a one owner car because service recites are in ash tray. It still has original radiator with tag!
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and have found the transmissions get cooked early and the engines dont make it too much further. ( daily's through the 70's and early 80's. )
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Only 1043 made
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And essentially a "Rockford Files" prequel. Extra value potential in keeping it together,
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1970 Lucerne Blue Firebird Trans Am, deluxe blue interior. Original Ram Air III, M-21, 3.73. Being built as a 4" stroke "434" with SR 614 Ram Air IV heads 1972+ Lucerne Blue 4-door hardtop "what if" T-41 Le Mans Sport GT/Grand Am concepts. Equipped with future 3" journal "455 HO"/"what if" prototype "SD 455". What if GM had continued production of the 1970-72 GM A body somewhere in the southern hemisphere? |
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Totally your business but if it were mine and solid, no way I would part it out.
Front end is one of the coolest and would look great back on the road.
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Michael 1970 Oshawa built 1 option Judge. 24 year restoration/upgrade project finally finished! 1979 Trans Am - low-buck drag car project for when I retire |
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It would be interesting to see the PHS on your Esprit 400. I certainly would just use the 3.07 from in in your RAIII/auto/AC Formula since you have it already and it's in good shape. I have a crusty 2.73 open 12-bolt rear end (drum to drum) from a Camaro that I'm planning on selling if anyone is interested.
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Looks like a good car to work with. Too good to part out.
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Just chuckling at the Esprit's are good when you put a Formula hood on them thoughts. Can't tell you how many people have said that to me.
It is a pretty rare car. 400 Esprits also got the T400, so one has a platform already in place for a subtle street build. Is it a hot equity ticket? With the 2V originality mojo, not really much more beyond the typical 350 car, hot 70-73 value these days. The drivetrain of heavy duty adds value to most people with any sense though. I would pay a couple grand more for a 400 car. I always thought Pontiac should have offered some different choices on the early birds. Like flat hood 4 barrels, more performance flavored. (think LeMans Sports). Built my car with the factory look, what they should have offered mindset. I personally would not use an intact 400 car as a parts car, but that is just IMO stuff.
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I think it's a cool car and I'd leave the flat hood, but... I'd have to at least put a 4bbl on it and probably more motor mods to make it a real sleeper. Which is why I shouldn't be allowed to have such a rare car. But if you're using it as a parts donor car for your Formula project, it's not gonna stay intact anyway, so there ya go.
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The L65 ( 2bbl) has 400 Ft lbs of TORQUE ........... ............... at ONLY...... 2400 rpm's UNHEARD OF ANYWHERE I am building one now for a Formula , yup, Running a Dual Jet so I can run Ram air... Really? yeah... with a 2bbl and the 11 heads... Why not have the Torque in the RPM range you actually drive in. What a concept.. Perfected with this engine by Pontiac. The 70 350's ( have one of those as well) is No slouch at low end. Who has 400 lbs of Torque at 55-60 MPH in HIGH gear.........?? hmmm?
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My esprit 400
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Dennis |
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12 bolt 273
That's interesting that camaros had this gear ratio but firebird didn't. If I remember correctly only z 28 is same as firebird meaning the 4 leaf springs vs 5 leaf springs is on all other camaros.
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yup, the Camaro rear is a 5 leaf SS rear end.
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Don’t part it out. Keep it stock looking and drive it! There are so few of these cars left and even fewer on the road. Everyone puts a Formula hood on or clones a Trans Am. Don’t do that.
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