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Old 11-12-2017, 06:07 PM
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I have a very NON matching numbers 69 firebird vert I am wanting to put a backup camera in. Not sure how the rear view mirror model will work. has anyone installed a camera with a double DIN stereo in the 69 bird? Where did you put the camera? Insight and ideas welcome for backup cameras.

I am not concerned about cutting the dash as it has been modified already.

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Old 11-13-2017, 08:54 AM
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I am scratching my head here, Are you really going to park a nice car somewhere where you need such a thing, as in inline parking?

How is a Camera going to stop Ass holes from hitting you?

I don't know about you , but that would be my main concern!!

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Old 11-13-2017, 10:03 AM
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A camera's main purpose is so you don't run over something...like a kid, or allows you to pull up tight to something...like the back wall in the batcave.
The camera hides well near the license plate, the display, in the ash tray, if it large enough.
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I 'am sorry , I guess I have just driven on this planet for 46 plus years and never backed into anything, lol!

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Mine as well go all in with driverless technology.

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Old 11-13-2017, 12:42 PM
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Camera is on my agenda also.
My 70 GTO has the 71 sport mirrors which are next to worthless, look good, but worthless.

I went to pep boys and bought a variety of small ' stick on' convex mirrors, put one on both pass and driver mirror, also put one on my 2016 Tacoma PU.
They are 1/3 the size of my oval mirrors. Now I can at a glance tell if lane changes are ok or not.

In addition to those I bought an interior stick on adjustable mirror. It was advertised as a mirror to watch children in the back seat.
It's really small and rectangular, convex, Mounted it top left inside windshield, where my oil change decal is, it fills the blind spot on the drivers side, from the inside.

My personal vehicles have cameras. It's becoming the norm. Back into the garage, back out of the garage, back down the driveway (75 ' long) clear view of any stuff.
The wing on my trunk messes with my back up perception.

I just don't want the rear view mirror, replacement kind. Very interested also to see what others have done.

Not to hijack this thread but . . . . .I am 6'2", the factory inside mirror makes a blind spot. Mostly merging traffic coming down an ON ramp. R side.
I stored it in the trunk, bought a look alike that sticks to the windshield so I can stick it at the very top of the glass. Now I can see under the mirror NP.

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How is a Camera going to stop Ass holes from hitting you?

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This is my feeling on those cameras, too. My wife's small SUV has one - it's great for showing what's directly behind you. If I'm watching it, though, my head can't be on a swivel looking for those idiots that drive through a parking lot at 45 mph.

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I have a 2013 Taurus, and back up by camera completely for directly behind, cross traffic is a different story. Rear view is terrible with the high beltline on this and many newer cars.

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A camera's main purpose is so you don't run over something...like a kid, or allows you to pull up tight to something...like the back wall in the batcave.
If you need a back-up camera for anything smaller than a medium-duty truck, you have a handicap-placard on the rear-view mirror, or you have more serious issues.

I see advertising for cars that have lane-change warnings, pedestrian warnings, automatic braking in case there's something/somebody in front of you...


...I figure those are cars for stupid people who don't have the ability to cultivate driving skill. These people need to turn in their driver's licenses (if they have one) for a State-issued ID card.

Automated cars are inevitable, and hateful. It's evidence of idiots taking over society, and needing machines to think and act on their behalf. The greatest part of "driving skill" is merely paying attention. "Attention-span" is a known problem area with various segments of society. Exaggerating to make a point, those segments are 1) the young, 2) the old, 3) the drug-impaired, 4) the mentally-challenged, and 5) the Snowflakes. Those are the segments that have the greatest problems with driving skill. I believe that vehicles should not legally have the ability to steer, accelerate, or brake without direct driver input. Speed-holding ("cruise control") as well as anti-lock braking devices are acceptable technologies, because they don't steer, they don't accelerate (unless the vehicle has dropped below the set speed due to load or terrain), and they don't brake without direct driver input.


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Backup camera or not, I would love a double din touch screen media player in my 67 FB. I haven't done it yet, so interested if anyone has. I think it is a cool idea.

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I have and occasionally still do drive a OTR plow truck, backwards all night in freezing rain, narrow brick streets, very hilly PA neighborhood. No camera, they call me to duty because I'm one of the few that can do it without hitting anything.... or anyone. I ran 16 hours straight, backwards, a few years back.( you drive backwards so you run over your own salt) Chained up on all drive wheels, and spinning away the whole time. Yes I can wheel w/o a camera,

Do you have a car with a BU camera?


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If you need a back-up camera for anything smaller than a medium-duty truck, you need to turn in your driver's license for a State-issued ID card. And start shopping for assisted-living facilities.

I see advertising for cars that have lane-change warnings, pedestrian warnings, automatic braking in case there's something/somebody in front of you...


...I figure those are cars for stupid people who don't have the ability to cultivate driving skill. The greatest part of "driving skill" is merely paying attention.

Automated cars are inevitable, and hateful. It's evidence of idiots taking over society, and needing machines to think and act on their behalf.. I believe that vehicles should not legally have the ability to steer, accelerate, or brake without direct driver input. Speed-holding ("cruise control") devices are an acceptable technology.

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I went to pep boys and bought a variety of small ' stick on' convex mirrors, put one on both pass and driver mirror, also put one on my 2016 Tacoma PU.
They are 1/3 the size of my oval mirrors. Now I can at a glance tell if lane changes are ok or not.

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They taught us in driving school to always look over our shoulder before changing lanes to eliminate that blind spot. Still do it to this day.

Fathers new truck has a back up camera built into the rear view mirror. I tried using it backing the truck up to my trailer. I just couldn't do it. The image is somewhat distorted and depth perception just doesn't work for me. I had much better luck doing it like I've done all my life, just turn around and look behind me, and back that sucker right up to the trailer. I almost always get it dead center.

I do know of one instance I would like a back up camera. When towing my 28 foot enclosed trailer. Even with the tow mirrors extended you still can't see directly behind you. Especially anyone tail gaiting. Or when I'm in a gas station and need to back up to maneuver the truck/trailer. I sometimes have to get my son or wife out of the truck to make sure it's clear behind me so I don't run over a car. I've often thought about installing a camera on the back of that trailer that stays on all the time, not just when backing up. Now that's a camera I think I could put to good use.

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I assume camera's that stay on while in forward motion are not to code.

They make kits to override the factory system and allow factory camera to work .
Also allows you to watch DVD or whatever source your vehicle may have to watch, while in motion.
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I was looking at another brand (can't remember) but it was $4-$500 for the setup. You could turn it on and off, but stayed on moving forward if you wanted it to. Never heard anything about a code or law that prohibits that, especially if it's safety minded.

I don't see the need for it really to stay on all the time while driving forward, but it sure would help me to know if I'm clear behind me when I back this behemoth up. Never fails someone gets right behind me and wonders why I can't see them. Matter of fact, several occasions it would have been nice to have a back up camera while driving. Not uncommon to have a tailgater, and as soon as I decide to switch lanes they dart out from behind me causing me to swerve back. Camera would have saved me from that quite a few times.


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I put one of these on my truck and for around $100 it works pretty good. I think I got mine at Walmart.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Peak-...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

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I like the wireless transmitter idea. I wouldn't have to run 70 feet of cable that way, lol.

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Old 11-15-2017, 08:34 AM
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I should have clarified more. The 69 Firebird Vert is my wifes. She is a 5' tall and does not see well through the smaller vert rear window and the side mirrors are so so. . This car is a daily driver most days here in Florida and she works at an elementary school with kids and parents everywhere at the end of the day.

The intent is just to make sure there is nothing / no one especially kids behind the car in the blind spots as she is hoping a kid is not there hiding behind the edge of a SUV or mini van that may be parked next to her. Nothing to do that she may have a handicap, other than being short. This is just a nice tool for taking 1 more look before over the shoulder look, rear view and side mirror look. Nothing more, nothing less. just want to make sure there are no kids behind the car.

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The camera would be wired so that it only comes on when the car is placed into reverse and shuts off when taken out of reverse.

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Old 11-15-2017, 10:20 AM
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Just a thought. Before mounting it on the license plate.

Tape it above your carburetor, see what's going on under there during acceleration, maybe look at fan belts, stuff you can never see when driving.
Finished playing with it, install it where it belongs.

I'm thinking one on my front porch so I can see my driveway from my favorite chair. (UPS, FED Ex deliveries)


BTW, it didn't get very good reviews from Cabella buyers, pony up for a more expensive unit.


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I put one of these on my truck and for around $100 it works pretty good. I think I got mine at Walmart.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Peak-...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
I bought one of these, not from Cabella's, mainly for my pickup when I want to do my trailer hookup. The first was very intermittent and unusable for anything other than a slow backup and hookup. They sent a replacement that had the same problem. I'd turn it on, backup, and it would go blank for a few seconds and then come back. I figured that it might have been at extreme range after the second one did the same thing. Not much use if the extreme range for the transmitter is under the bed 2/3 of the way back.

Also, it's very hard to distinguish when the ball was under the tongue in anything other than sunlight, so I've got to be very careful when hooking up in the carport or garage.

If you only wanted it to check behind the vehicle before you back up, and was patient, it would probably be ok. If you wanted it for guidance, I'd look elsewhere.

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