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#1
06-03-2007, 05:50 PM
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1941 Super Streamliner Six
Here's my next in line project behind my 55. It was my uncles until he passed a few months ago. I plan on keeping the flathead 239 six and keep it mostly stock. I'm sure i'll have fun trying to find parts for this one. It's mostly all intact, the interior is still decent and pulled from the car before they put it in a machine shed over 20 years ago.
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06-15-2007, 11:57 PM
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That'll be a sweet old ride Bill, don't see those every day...
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06-21-2007, 01:09 AM
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now that's a cool car.
years ago i talked with a guy who had one with a tripower 421 4 spd n it. mike
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06-21-2007, 09:13 AM
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No plans for any v-8. I got it home over the weekend and the engine will turn over. Still debating to go to a 12v system .
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06-22-2007, 03:42 AM
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I don't know your situation, so you may have reasons for switching to 12 volts- a 2,000 watt sound system, maybe?!
I just want to say that 6 volt systems may have gotten a 'bum rap'- for instance, the old rusty 6 volt cars like I've had. But I'm quite happy with my '55 Plymouth (not rusty)- headlights do as good a job as my 12 volt cars, and although it doesn't crank fast, it always starts. However, "always" doesn't include winters- I'm sure winter-starting would be an argument for a 12 volt system. To power a cassette player, I just mounted an old 12V battery in the trunk.
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06-22-2007, 11:06 AM
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No plans for any big radio either. Just looking at the starting/brighter light deal. I was thinking about a 6/12v dual battery but they are about $220. May just hook it up for 12v to get it running before I buy a 6v battery. I found an Interstate 6v for about $70, I don't know how comparable that price is, doesn't sound to bad though.
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07-29-2007, 06:37 PM
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If anyone cares I made a little progress on the 41, got the head pulled off yesterday. The engine would turn over and stop at one spot. The cylinder walls look good and hardly any ridge at the top. There are a few valves that arent moving, I suspect they are stuck in the block. I hope thats all from keeping the engine from completely turning over. If thats all thats holding up the engine, i'll go ahead and do a valve job and get this thing running.
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07-29-2007, 09:37 PM
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cool, glad to see you working on it.
mike
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05-21-2008, 09:37 PM
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I finally made some more progress on this thing, man that 3rd kid really takes away any free time. I can't believe how much time has passed .
Anyway I got the valves out, #6 intake valve was siezed in the block. After alot of pbblaster and welding a nut to the top of the valve and double nutting a bolt and nut on to grab ahold it finally came out. I also used the lifter to push from the bottom. I kept adjusting it out, back it off than put a shim in between and push out again. I got the seats cut tonight, i'll try to get all the valves cut this week except for the one that was siezed. I'll replace that one and whatever doesn't clean up. Most of the rust in the walls is residue leftover from cleaning up the block. No ridge at the top, not bad for this old of an engine I think. To anyone that knows 41, this isn't a super, only a Streamliner Six sedan cpe. Mistake on my part when I started this thread.
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05-21-2008, 10:00 PM
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Not trying to steal your thread Bill, but ....
... I couldn't figure out how to attach a picture to the PM I owe you.
Will this do?
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05-21-2008, 10:25 PM
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Yes that will work Bill, thanks. I havn't figured how either, you can't attatch it like a regular photo.
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05-22-2008, 02:17 AM
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did you know that the 54's came with the aluminium pistons and a 2 bbl. Smoke em if ya got em.
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05-22-2008, 02:28 AM
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Quote:
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05-22-2008, 09:12 PM
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All the straight eights were steel alloy pistons. The six was upgraded to aluminum pistons and 2 barrel carburetor in '53 and remained that way in '54. The oil rings on the eights were at the very bottom of the piston skirts as well.
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05-23-2008, 01:26 AM
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Wow- iron pistons as late as '52? I wouldn't have imagined that. Thanks for the info.
Seems like the crank counterweights must have been huge?
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05-23-2008, 03:05 AM
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4.11 rears too
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05-23-2008, 08:21 AM
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Standard ratio for a 26 series 6cyl is 4:30! "Economy" rear is 3:90.
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05-23-2008, 10:01 AM
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Pontiac Jack, the eights were in production through 1954. The six cylinder crankshafts were actually heavier than the eights. Since the piston and block were similar alloys the wall clearance is extremely tight, with full skirt pistons there really isn't any room for them to "rattle" around in the bores. The engines were very smooth running, my '53 Chieftain idles at 375-380 rpm in gear.
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05-23-2008, 03:27 PM
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Hook up an msd 6al and she will idle as low as 300-325. These old engines are so under rated by most people. to bad because they were the proof of pontiac engineering superiority. That guarenteed the v8's would be all that they are now.
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06-06-2008, 10:16 PM
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Ready to put the head back on finally, anyone know do I just put the gasket on dry, i've been told several differant ways? From prosoaking overnight to grease on the gasket?
I know tighten the bolts, than once its running and warm , shut it off and retorque the gasket. Do I tighten to full spec when cold than run?
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