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Old 02-15-2024, 10:37 PM
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Wow, I wouldn't know where to start...
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...d-trans-am-28/

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Old 02-16-2024, 12:27 AM
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Are you trying to say that you don't like the seat covers , dash bezel , simulation carb with wrong code , and the alternator bracket ?

Its a good car and still gonna bring good money.
If the deviations and short faults don't get caught it might go 6 figures

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The stripe kit doesn't appear to be the better style .
But its gonna pass to most viewers.

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Old 02-16-2024, 12:57 AM
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A Lot there to look over. Being a Ca car brings into the light some different questions as well.
Speaker on the right side and the spare pushing the enclosure sideways..
Front sway bar mounting set up is wrong for a T/A .( didn't get energy suspension mounts and bushings)
Exhaust, well they didn't call Eric.
Driveshaft,...?
I question the rear springs . all shiny, and too high, and well too much of the car is all shinny for a super original car ( investment grade IMHO)

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I didn't pay any attention to the wheel stamp pics until they were mentioned.
ouch

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I didn't pay any attention to the wheel stamp pics until they were mentioned.
ouch
Those stamps are hideous. Looks like he has the correct ones though.

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The more one looks, the more one finds...

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Why is it that so many early 2nd gen dash bezels get replaced?

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Why is it that so many early 2nd gen dash bezels get replaced?
Who knows? My 71 has an 80 bezel in it lol

On the 70, lots of little details wrong, but looks like a pretty good car overall. Makes me happy that mine currently under the knife was completely untouched before starting the resto. Those little things add up!

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Anybody have any comments on the 72' trans am that's on there?

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Anybody have any comments on the 72' trans am that's on there?
you made me look for it - surprisingly, I never received an email notification about this one.

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Anybody have any comments on the 72' trans am that's on there?
Was always a 70 man.
But I'd take the 72 over this 70

Both are quality cars with their own drawbacks .

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Oh and Don’t forget the washer bottle cap !

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Anybody have any comments on the 72' trans am that's on there?
Just that it sold for $97,500.

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Just that it sold for $97,500.
I wanted that car for Christmas
and Santa was a no-show this year.
and last year.

Guessing his GPS is glitching.
I'm a good boy dammit Santa !

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Just that it sold for $97,500.
Also, it came from Don Davis, Pontiac, just outside of Buffalo, which also sold several 73 Super Duty Trans Ams, which a couple are stored outback here

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Old 02-17-2024, 11:17 PM
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Just that it sold for $97,500.
Strong money considering many modest issues. Thought the under body & chassis looked as well restored as about any early T/A that's been on the Circus Site.

Todd, not all of us are 15x7 HC wheel fans. TOO d#mn HEAVY. 15x7 HC's can flat make a '71 or '72 T/A CLUNKY looking.

Personally like seeing 15x7 HC's on "some" Lucerne blue cars, more so than on 71-72 white T/A's There is just more contrast. Am very glad my '72 has its date matched set of 2/28 KR's.

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Why is it that so many early 2nd gen dash bezels get replaced?
Even twenty years ago, it was (as I understood it) to replace a nice looking later dash insert - with it's shiny machined finish, for one which was dull and often worn to the point that the machine finish was gone, and left in it's place was a dull grey/flat aluminum.

When I last looked at this listing (thank you email alerts!) it was at (or somewhere close to) $35k;
I am guessing that a numbers matching 1970 Trans Am - with a 'WS' engine is what the current bidding (at $71k) is ALL about.

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Wow!
They did a good job hiding the fact that this IS an RTS dash insert!!
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Why is it that so many early 2nd gen dash bezels get replaced?
They turn hazy - and yellowy - with age and exposure.
Can get down right horrible looking.

If a guy tries to take a little mild rubbing compound to one - as soon as it "appears" you have made an improvement - you have actually gone through the coating and the swirl is now smooth or very compromised.

I tried it on a bent up later model bezel years ago , for experiment. fail

Nowadays they say oven cleaner gets the old coating off , then carefully clean and clear coat.
I would start with a junker to practice first.
Believe Randy Combs is the name I have seen associated with restoring them.
He gets it done right

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Glad I'm not the only one who finds issues with this TA. Yes, it'll go for big bucks. Most likely to someone who doesn't know that much about our favorite model.

Seller's response to my comment about the use of a 1973 model year front bumper seems to show he doesn't understand the difference between the 1973 and the 1970-72 part. Notice the 1970-71 grilles have had to be hacked in to place since the '73's attach in a different way.
I'm probably going to offend some by saying, IMHO, I see this one as a "10 footer" at best.

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