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Proper color of 1969 GTO Hood Hinge?
Is semi-gloss black the proper color for a 1969 GTO? Phosporus(sp)?
Thanks, Jim |
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Jim
Gray phosphate is the correct color for hood hinges. Ames supplies a nice reproduction or there are companies that provide the service if you want to stay 100 percent original. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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It's my understanding that the correct finish in manganese phosphate. Heard this from an old timer who restored these hinges for years. He himself used to send them out to a local company to have plated but does not currently offer that service. He now just paints them. You can however find companies that still offer the service although it is quite expensive, around $200 a set iirc.
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1969 GTO 4spd. Antique Gold/black, gold int. 1969 GTO RAIII 4spd. Verdoro Green/black, black int. 1969 GTO 4spd. Crystal Turquoise, black int. 1970 GTO 4spd VOE Pepper Green, green int. 1967 LeMans 428 Auto. Blue, black int. |
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If you have a bead blaster ... and a stainless steel tank, and a hot plate to heat it up ... you can manganese phosphate them yourself for about $30.
Just did a rifle barrel, turned out great. |
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Hi dataway, would you mind posting a pic of your rifle barrel if you could? Just curious to see what Manganese Phosphate looks like.
Thanks.
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1966 GTO Vert automatic. 1969 CR Judge Ram Air III 4sp Pattern Car. 1969 GTO standard 350HP TH-400. 2006 GTO Phantom Black 6spd. 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air. 1976 LE Trans Am 50th Anniversary Edition with T top. 1976 Formula 350. 1977 Grand Prix Model J 350. 1978 Trans am 400 Pontiac. 1979 Trans am 403 Olds. 1968 Olds 442. 1971 TR6. |
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Here is a picture of the barrel done in Mag-phosphate ... and a pic where you can see a control arm pivot done in zinc phosphate. The Zinc produces a medium to dark-medium gray, the Mag-phosphate produces a dark gray to blackish gray. The photo of the barrel appears a shade or so darker than it really is, it is NOT black ... but a dark-to-charcoal gray. Whereas the the Zinc is a medium-dark gray ..... hehehe hope that helps.
I need to find something of a very common color, that everyone owns, and take pictures of things next to that so people have a reference point. |
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The hardest part of the project was welding up a stainless pan to hold the barrel. The other parts I was able to cook in a large stainless cooking pot. Used an electric hot plate to do the heating.
Biggest thing is ... clean, clean, clean .... the parts need to be thoroughly degreased, bead blasted with clean beads, then handled with clean paper towels, lint free rags or gloves. But, done right, the results are very rewarding and the necessary chemicals quite cheap compared to paying someone for the service. Some more info from when I did the barrel towards the end of this thread. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=803284 PS. If I had to make a guess ... I'd say the factory would use zinc-phosphate rather than mag-phosphate .... although I've seen hinges that could have been either. Seen them both old and gray, and old and blackish. |
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Just saw your pics. They help greatly. Thanks for posting them!!
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1966 GTO Vert automatic. 1969 CR Judge Ram Air III 4sp Pattern Car. 1969 GTO standard 350HP TH-400. 2006 GTO Phantom Black 6spd. 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air. 1976 LE Trans Am 50th Anniversary Edition with T top. 1976 Formula 350. 1977 Grand Prix Model J 350. 1978 Trans am 400 Pontiac. 1979 Trans am 403 Olds. 1968 Olds 442. 1971 TR6. |
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After looking through my various experiment ... I'll have to backtrack and say you'd probably be happier with the results of Mag Phosphate compared to Zinc. The factory probably used Zinc-Phosphate ... but they had MUCH more control over the end color and I think the factory Zinc looks more like DIY Manganese.
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