[64speed]

I see a lot of front end upper and lower control arms on eBay that look exactly like the global west units but they hover in the 300 buck range. Anybody use them? Any advantage to them? I would replace the unknown ball joints with moog right off the bat but other than that what's been your experience?

[cnc]

Well...just my point of view...
I was looking at Global West frt suspension stuff......Del a lum frt bushings
But since my latest dealings with Doug and my rear suspension Del a lum bushings ....
I would go elsewhere than Global West....Doug was supposed to make me two new bushings for my fame rails ...haven't heard from him since May 12 after a few emails out to him to see what's going on....yet we were conversing about a resolution hence the new bushings that I have not seen......
So if u have an issue with Global West Stuff are u gonna have it resolved.....I haven't.....
Anyway there are others out there besides Global West....that I'm sure are just as suitable....

[64speed]

These arent Global West parts they just look like them

[cnc]

Then might be a better route u have a link...

[NEW64OWNER]

They're excellent arms if you replace the ball joints

[NeighborsComplaint]

Global West G-Plus Upper @ $598.75
Global West G-Plus Lower @ $699.85

Clones @ $269.98

Someone should drop Global West a line and see if their products are Made in USA or sourced from overseas.

BTW, I have the clones on my car.

[64speed]

Do they take factory ball joints?

[NeighborsComplaint]

Check w. the seller to be sure. I compared mine to Moog at the auto parts store and they looked to be the same size and mounting.

[FrankieT/A]

Are there clones for an F body?

[NEW64OWNER]

Originally Posted by 64speed

Do they take factory ball joints?

Yes

[RA66GTO]

Felt inclined to respond with my experience with the lower priced Control Arms. If you are simply using the car as a driver, they are probably going to be fine. If you really enjoy the mountain roads, auto cross, etc.... they are going to fail. The bushings are the issue. After a year of service the bushings were cracked and coming out in pieces. I have since ponied up for the UMI Control Arms that utilize a rod end to adjust Caster and Camber. After several years of service now and several thousand miles, I have had no issues at all. There are no noticeable adverse effects on ride quality either. http://umiperformance.com/catalog/in...roducts_id=956

[FrankieT/A]

Originally Posted by RA66GTO

Felt inclined to respond with my experience with the lower priced Control Arms. If you are simply using the car as a driver, they are probably going to be fine. If you really enjoy the mountain roads, auto cross, etc.... they are going to fail. The bushings are the issue. After a year of service the bushings were cracked and coming out in pieces.

Is that the only issue? If so, I would have no problem changing the bushings before installing them. Still way ahead of the game financially speaking...

[rohrt]

don't have do much searching to find some horror stories of the ebay chinees A-arms. Some feel they are OK if you change out the ball joints.

[NeighborsComplaint]

Originally Posted by rohrt

don't have do much searching to find some horror stories of the ebay chinees A-arms. Some feel they are OK if you change out the ball joints.

Yeah. The same old post on the Chevelle Forum. File it under 'Urban Legends"

Mine were fine. Paid $249 for complete uppers and lowers. Perfect welds and powder coat, identical to Global West right down to the Del-A-Lum bushings and grease fittings. Nothing substandard in the ball joints either. Dust covers fit snugly, well-plated and finished, good polish and no machining marks on the ball and socket visible. I had no reservations putting them on the car. They fit perfectly, no force fit. The alignment shop was able to align without a single issue.

Are they track worthy? Don't know. don't care. My goal was an upgraded, modern suspension with good road feel, good on-center steering feel, OEM ride height (slight forward rake) and a firm but comfortable ride. Toward that end I installed UMI rear control arms, progressive wound rear Moog springs, Moog OEM front springs, the "clones", KYB gas shocks and Addco sway bars front and back, all new OEM replacement steering linkage and a Jeep GC steering box from Autozone (that doesn't leak and doesn't have excessive backlash).

Despite installing "all the cheap sh!t" the car drives like it's on rails and is much more relaxed running at speed than before (stock) with the additional caster from the new control arms and the more precise steering box.. It's not twitchy, goes where it's pointed and doesn't bounce like a bronco or ride like a buckboard. Again, my goals may have been different than those building a "track car."

[rohrt]

From what I remember a few of the failures were ball joint related and I do remember one of the arms themselves failed. I think they said the welds were mig welded not tig welded on the knock offs.

I guess why would you even buy aftermarket A-arms unless you were going to push it a little. And if you are going to be pushing it is worth the risk? For me that is why I will steer clear.

[64speed]

Originally Posted by NeighborsComplaint

Yeah. The same old post on the Chevelle Forum. File it under 'Urban Legends"

Mine were fine. Paid $249 for complete uppers and lowers. Perfect welds and powder coat, identical to Global West right down to the Del-A-Lum bushings and grease fittings. Nothing substandard in the ball joints either. Dust covers fit snugly, well-plated and finished, good polish and no machining marks on the ball and socket visible. I had no reservations putting them on the car. They fit perfectly, no force fit. The alignment shop was able to align without a single issue.

Are they track worthy? Don't know. don't care. My goal was an upgraded, modern suspension with good road feel, good on-center steering feel, OEM ride height (slight forward rake) and a firm but comfortable ride. Toward that end I installed UMI rear control arms, progressive wound rear Moog springs, Moog OEM front springs, the "clones", KYB gas shocks and Addco sway bars front and back, all new OEM replacement steering linkage and a Jeep GC steering box from Autozone (that doesn't leak and doesn't have excessive backlash).

Despite installing "all the cheap sh!t" the car drives like it's on rails and is much more relaxed running at speed than before (stock) with the additional caster from the new control arms and the more precise steering box.. It's not twitchy, goes where it's pointed and doesn't bounce like a bronco or ride like a buckboard. Again, my goals may have been different than those building a "track car."

You and me are of the same mindset. Do you remember what the part number for the rear springs was? I just ordered station wagon rear springs. Didn't know progressive rate was available

[NeighborsComplaint]

Moog makes the CC501 but their application chart says they fit 1967-1972 only.

[64speed]

Originally Posted by NeighborsComplaint

Moog makes the CC501 but their application chart says they fit 1967-1972 only.

Thanks just ordered some from summit. Gonna send the station wagon coils back

[Interceptor]

A friend of mine tried the knockoffs and they didnt fit. You might get lucky, then again you might not.

[A.J.]

Yeah, this has been up here before.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...r+control+arms