[71GP76TA]

Originally Posted by necdb3

Looks good. I think I see the plastic valance. Looks like a pre 1/72 judging by the clear turn signals.

Yes on the plastic valence and yes its an early build... IIRC 12/71

[71GP76TA]

Originally Posted by charles bledsoe

Could you post a few more pics on your new purchase? Was it widely for sale (advertised) or purchased thru personal channels?

It was on Facebook. The car lived its entire life in Southern California.

[Judge273]

It was one of the cars I first referenced as a "nice time to buy"car...

Looks Lee it was a nice car to buy!

[71GP76TA]

Originally Posted by Judge273

It was one of the cars I first referenced as a "nice time to buy"car...

Looks Lee it was a nice car to buy!

Yes. It's a good car that has been very well preserved SoCal car. Just needs a little TLC. No rust and all the #'s match.

I think the seller was a little overwhelmed with the interest and didn't want to hassle with crawling under the car etc...... He's 65 and inherited the car about 4-5 years ago from his deceased brother in law along with a couple of other cars including a '65 GTO...which he is keeping.. I was the 1st guy that picked up the phone and called and was able to look at the car in person.

[Norwood]

Looks like a good car. Again it shows they are still out there and when the come on the market you better not blink or it’s gone

[Bentwheelbob]

Originally Posted by Norwood

Looks like a good car. Again it shows they are still out there and when the come on the market you better not blink or it’s gone

It’s interesting this thread is just about ‘71 & ‘72 cars. I guess everyone acknowledges the ‘70’s with the dinky 400 CI engine (and some that have been replaced with beater 350 CI engines) are already destined for the price scrap heap....

LOL - Love you Norwood.

[Norwood]

Your cracking me up Bobby. Those crappy d ports get no respect. Original WS motor under reconstruction and will be back in its rightful place this spring

[Judge273]

Clearly done out of respect for the 70 TAs. They're built with unique parts and are in a league of their own.

[Interceptor]

Originally Posted by 71GP76TA

... picked up the phone and called and was able to look at the car in person...

Sometimes that's all it takes

[Judge273]

As I stated earlier...


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[unruhjonny]

Originally Posted by Formulajones

Apparently BJ is changing their docket around because this 70 TA 4-speed just showed up for Saturday night. Looks like it goes a little early on Saturday and is surrounded by mundane cars on the docket at that time, so hard to say how that will reflect the price.

But other than it appears to sit a little high, it's a very nice example, color, and nice options. I like it.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...M-COUPE-215046

what a great looking car!!

I am a little confused here, so maybe the more knowledgable in the group can chime in;
I thought that for 1970 a close ratio four speed was teamed with 3.73's;
But I thought that 3.73's were not available with A/C?
Maybe the M21(?) was installed at the time of the restoration??

...yes, I am catching up on this thread.

[starlightblack]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

what a great looking car!!

I am a little confused here, so maybe the more knowledgable in the group can chime in;
I thought that for 1970 a close ratio four speed was teamed with 3.73's;
But I thought that 3.73's were not available with A/C?
Maybe the M21(?) was installed at the time of the restoration??

...yes, I am catching up on this thread.

M20 only with 3.73 for Ram Air IV manual tranny cars

[unruhjonny]

Originally Posted by starlightblack

M20 only with 3.73 for Ram Air IV manual tranny cars

maybe my post was too brief;
The car linked was reportedly a 'close ratio' four speed car with air conditioning;
I thought the two options were mutually exclusive.

[starlightblack]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

maybe my post was too brief;
The car linked was reportedly a 'close ratio' four speed car with air conditioning;
I thought the two options were mutually exclusive.

DEFINITELY NO 3.73 WITH AIR

3.31 OR 3.08 WITH MANUAL AND AIR...I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE-CHECK TO SEE IF 3.55 WAS AN AVAILABLE RATIO WITH 4-SPEED AIR OR NOT, BUT I DO NOT THINK SO

BUT , YES, I HAVE SEEN M21s WITH AIR CARS

[starlightblack]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

maybe my post was too brief;
The car linked was reportedly a 'close ratio' four speed car with air conditioning;
I thought the two options were mutually exclusive.

48 cars

[unruhjonny]

my recollection is the following:

3.55 was the standard gear set;
if A/C was opted, and a four speed was selected, it changed to 3.31:1
I believe opting for both auto & a/c meant 3.08:1.

going another direction;
I believe that ordering the close ratio four speed required 3.73:1 gears;
I also believe that the 3.73:1 gears could be had without ordering the close ratio four speed (I believe I read that here).

My understanding was that if A/C was opted, only the M40 or M20 were available.

... but that's just my hair-brained fuzzy reccolection of what I seem to recall reading over the years.
I have no literature handy to verify any of this.

[unruhjonny]

Originally Posted by starlightblack

48 cars

(picture attached)

Huh!

I don't recall reading that before!
I really thought the options were not to be combined!
Weird!!

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by starlightblack

48 cars

I think you are reading that wrong. 48 is the number of cars built with AC & Manual Trans at Van Nuys - not M21.

I'm pretty sure Jonny is right M21 with 3:73 unless RAIV - they got the M20.

[unruhjonny]

/\ /\ now that I'm home, and I looked at it again, I see what you're saying.

[keith k]

Agreed - Jonny is correct. It was not possible to get A/C with an M21 on a '70.
There's an inconsistency in B-J's advertising for that T/A.

And on a related note, that T/A (at least as best i can tell from the pictures B-J posted), looks like a very nicely restored car. I'm not sure I've ever seen them have one that nice. Seller is brave to run it through at no reserve...