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A little fun for today:

Three Pontiacs auctioning on BAT today....which will sell for the most $$ or maybe a what do you think each will ultimately bid to?? Maybe guess before looking (links below - all are in nice condition).

1988 Pontiac Fiero GT 5-Speed

1986 Pontiac Parisienne Safari

1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula WS6 6-Speed

[The Champ]

In the following order - highest to lowest - assuming all are in similar conditioin:

1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula WS6 6-Speed

1988 Pontiac Fiero GT 5-Speed

1986 Pontiac Parisienne Safari

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Originally Posted by The Champ

In the following order - highest to lowest - assuming all are in similar conditioin:

1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula WS6 6-Speed

1988 Pontiac Fiero GT 5-Speed

1986 Pontiac Parisienne Safari

How much do you think each will bid to?

[The Champ]

I didn't look at BAT until just now.

Current bidding says I'm wrong, with the Fiero GT currently to $16,500, must be a couple of bidders that REALLY want THAT car.

Firebird is $7000 and the boring wagon is currently sitting at a very high $6100.

I'd like to own a Fiero, but not that car at that price. I'd seriously consider that Firebird Formula at $16,500 with only 37,000 miles though (although I'd prefer a convertible).

[critter]

I've owned a couple of Fieros, both 88s. Great little car but not $16,500 worth of great for me. Maybe with an engine swap. That was my biggest gripe. It needed help in the power department.

[Chris65LeMans]

Originally Posted by The Champ

In the following order - highest to lowest - assuming all are in similar conditioin:

1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula WS6 6-Speed

1988 Pontiac Fiero GT 5-Speed

1986 Pontiac Parisienne Safari

That’s my guess, too. As I’ve said before, BAT seems like it’s populated with drunken trust fund babies. Sometimes stuff will happen like that Safari going for $75,000.

[RocktimusPryme]

I remember looking for a Fiero to do the supercharged 3.8 swap to a while ago. Like a decade ago. Even then the 87 and 88 GT cars seemed to bring way more money than the other years or time levels. It doesn't surprise me at all to see those late GT's bringing big money.

[Sirrotica]

The reason the Fiero is high is because it's a GT and it's an 88. By 88 they had worked most of the bugs out of the Fiero. It's the best design as well as the most desirable of all the years, being a GT helps too. I owned a 86, and an 88, the 88 is a much better designed car.

It may have the Getrag transaxle too, also highly desirable.

Even though the Firebird is a WS 6, it has the Vortec LT1 5.7 SBC in it. If it were an 98, and had the LS1, it would bring more money. The LS1 is much preferred over the Vortec LT1 5.7.

The Safari is big money for a wagon that has really no special qualities, I can think of a lot of cars in that era that I would be more inclined to want to buy than an 86 Safari Parisienne.

[John V.]

I play this BaT game with a buddy of mine all the time and we are both usually way wrong.

Even before Champ posted the current order, I pegged the '88 Fiero at the top by a wide margin.

I'll guess it will top out between $24k-$28k. Could go higher. It is the only one of the bunch I would love to have. I'd want the T-Tops but that is a small quibble. About 18 years ago, my son had a piano teacher that had an '88 pretty much same as this one. She had owned since new, she drove it cross country from Cal when she relocated to Fla but still pretty low miles IIRC. She had people like me constantly asking her if it was for sale. She would just laugh and say it was her baby.

The '96 Formula will get to $15k-$18k. Hard for me to be impartial about it, I would not buy it because I dislike Silver cars. I also know that many guys prefer the Formula but for me, it would be 2nd rate to a Trans Am.

The '86 wagon might get a little love, station wagons seem to have gained cult status. It'll get $11k to $14K, could conceivably beat out the Formula.

If I've called any of them right, it could be a BaT first for me!

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

The reason the Fiero is high is because it's a GT and it's an 88. By 88 they had worked most of the bugs out of the Fiero. It's the best design as well as the most desirable of all the years, being a GT helps too. I owned a 86, and an 88, the 88 is a much better designed car.

Fact ^

I have seen them do much more.

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by John V.

I play this BaT game with a buddy of mine all the time and we are both usually way wrong.

Even before Champ posted the current order, I pegged the '88 Fiero at the top by a wide margin.

I'll guess it will top out between $24k-$28k. Could go higher. It is the only one of the bunch I would love to have. I'd want the T-Tops but that is a small quibble. About 18 years ago, my son had a piano teacher that had an '88 pretty much same as this one. She had owned since new, she drove it cross country from Cal when she relocated to Fla but still pretty low miles IIRC. She had people like me constantly asking her if it was for sale. She would just laugh and say it was her baby.

T-Tops weren't factory. No Fiero ever rolled off the assembly line with T-Tops. They were "chopped" in by 1 of 2 companies.

[John V.]

Chief, in '88 however, the T-Tops were a true RPO. Cars & Concepts was the vendor that did the install. Prior years, C&C would handle the conversion thru the Pontiac dealers, but not as an RPO. The SPID label will list the RPO for the T-Tops in '88 if they were so ordered.

No Sunfire ever rolled off the Final Assembly line as a convertible. My '98 and '99 Sunfire Convertibles were completed by ASC for Pontiac. But they were sold by PMD same as the coupes. And VIN'd by PMD.

It wasn't how it was done "old school" in the '60s but I believe it "counts" as "factory" for the way more modern car assembly has been handled.

BTT

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@ 3 hours to go and the Fiero holding down the lead easily.

Formula and Parisienne still neck and neck....

Had a 97 TA WS6, so a bit surprised a wagon is holding it's own. I get the wagon craze lately, but c'mon. LT1 with SLP mods is no slouch.

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by John V.

Chief, in '88 however, the T-Tops were a true RPO. Cars & Concepts was the vendor that did the install. Prior years, C&C would handle the conversion thru the Pontiac dealers, but not as an RPO. The SPID label will list the RPO for the T-Tops in '88 if they were so ordered.

No Sunfire ever rolled off the Final Assembly line as a convertible. My '98 and '99 Sunfire Convertibles were completed by ASC for Pontiac. But they were sold by PMD same as the coupes. And VIN'd by PMD.

It wasn't how it was done "old school" in the '60s but I believe it "counts" as "factory" for the way more modern car assembly has been handled.

BTT

So if a dealer installed under dash A/C it's "factory"?

That debate was thrashed out at a convention many years ago over a 1962 Bonneville.

If it didn't "roll off the assembly line and out the back door" with it, it is not "factory". No where is there a photo of a Fiero with T-Tops rolling off the assembly line.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

B-a-T amazes me more times than not.
I just glimpsed at the 86 Wagon , it was at 11k

Swelling under the woodgrain and under some trim seems like it should have folks throwing lowballs towards it.
But they are throwing right over the plate at it.

i just can't fathom that kind of coin for a car with swelling from Indiana.
An 86 wagon with 307 Olds power to boot .
wow

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Wagon sold for $12,250.

Fiero sold for $18,250.

Will the Formula catch it?? Guessing no...

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Formula sold for $12,000.

Wouldn't have guessed that the Safari wagon would beat it out and doesn't look like anyone else did either.

Would have guessed:

1. Formula
2. Fiero
3. Parisienne wagon

instead of...

1. Fiero
2. Parisienne wagon
3. Formula

Shows what I know...