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Old 03-24-2018, 10:49 AM
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Tom you sent me the messages. I sent a reply. Twist things as you please. I sent you my contact information. It stops there. I will not play your stupid childish games. Personal attacks on people's education/ financial status and life choices speaks volumes of your character.

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Old 03-24-2018, 11:04 AM
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Bill you can impress the Sesame Street Outlaws fanboys all you want by slapping Big Chief's name on everything, but Chief Running 3.99 in the 1/8 th on 315's in Radial vs the World trim, with little 340cfm Aluminum RAIV heads, was far more impressive than him being #1 on any stupid list ( which could be staged for all we know) . Fulton's car runs good but its a professional test n tune machine, that isnt limited by the rules of actual heads up classes like Langer, Snyder, Dwight, Kinsler, Billy, etc. Backhalf, fogger...hell, the few heads up classes its legal for, it wouldnt even be competitive in.

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Old 03-24-2018, 11:05 AM
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Carefull John. If you offendthe west coast super genius vaught may send you nasty private messages personally attacking you. Your education- job and financial status is fair game.
You mean the one who maybe has running 10.00's is trying to telling Billy who has run 7.22 @ 3700# how it should be done.

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Old 03-24-2018, 11:10 AM
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Wow Tom V, i don't have selective memory, i was am still appreciative for your help. Not sure where your comment is coming from.

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Old 03-24-2018, 11:11 AM
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You mean the one who maybe has running 10.00's is trying to telling Billy who has run 7.22 @ 3700# how it should be done.

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10.9s, not. 10.00.

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Old 03-24-2018, 12:41 PM
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Bill you can impress the Sesame Street Outlaws fanboys all you want by slapping Big Chief's name on everything, but Chief Running 3.99 in the 1/8 th on 315's in Radial vs the World trim, with little 340cfm Aluminum RAIV heads, was far more impressive than him being #1 on any stupid list ( which could be staged for all we know) . Fulton's car runs good but its a professional test n tune machine, that isnt limited by the rules of actual heads up classes like Langer, Snyder, Dwight, Kinsler, Billy, etc. Backhalf, fogger...hell, the few heads up classes its legal for, it wouldnt even be competitive in.

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Fwiw... Fulton runs a DOT tire "street" class in Minnesota. He ran same configuration at Beech Bend. I think he cut a tire at Norwalk and can't recall if he ran same replacements.
Btw pretty sure he won. His class at Brainard with the CV heads that year as well.

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10.9s, not. 10.00.
WOW.......only 10.90’s, back in the late 80’s early 90’s I was running that with a stock converter.....3.42 gears.......small hydraulic crane blazer cam and stock cast iron Pontiac heads!


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Bill you can impress the Sesame Street Outlaws fanboys all you want by slapping Big Chief's name on everything, but Chief Running 3.99 in the 1/8 th on 315's in Radial vs the World trim, with little 340cfm Aluminum RAIV heads, was far more impressive than him being #1 on any stupid list ( which could be staged for all we know) . Fulton's car runs good but its a professional test n tune machine, that isnt limited by the rules of actual heads up classes like Langer, Snyder, Dwight, Kinsler, Billy, etc. Backhalf, fogger...hell, the few heads up classes its legal for, it wouldnt even be competitive in.

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Lol... it's simple marketing. I guess non of the other venders want their name on any top car either.. AP sure as hell wanted their name and IA2 on my car.. the Kauffmans like their name associated with fast chit running their products...I sure have seen some Butler stickers on cars running there products.. i believe that Bishoffs name is on some of the cars you mentioned... because he supplied them with parts and services.. that a how you sell parts... win on Sunday sell on monday..
So what do you run and is it impressive enough that a vender wants to be a part of it?

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Old 03-24-2018, 05:13 PM
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Well said Scott!

Vendors don't give "free" anything except maybe advise. If parts supplies or labor are involved there is almost always "strings" attached.

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Fwiw... Fulton runs a DOT tire "street" class in Minnesota. He ran same configuration at Beech Bend. I think he cut a tire at Norwalk and can't recall if he ran same replacements.
Btw pretty sure he won. His class at Brainard with the CV heads that year as well.
Did he ever get that converter he needed?

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Did he ever get that converter he needed?
He did..along with some other things..

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Old 03-24-2018, 07:43 PM
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Lol... it's simple marketing. I guess non of the other venders want their name on any top car either.. AP sure as hell wanted their name and IA2 on my car.. the Kauffmans like their name associated with fast chit running their products...I sure have seen some Butler stickers on cars running there products.. i believe that Bishoffs name is on some of the cars you mentioned... because he supplied them with parts and services.. that a how you sell parts... win on Sunday sell on monday..

So what do you run and is it impressive enough that a vender wants to be a part of it?


I don’t blame Bill for wanting his name on Chief’s car. I’m just saying some Pontiac folks get a little carried away with the street outlaws nonsense. Chief brought a lot of good attention to the Pontiac world, but time slips and heads up class racing means more than a silly TV show that’s dumbed down and marketed towards non racers. If Chief makes a return to Duck’s race and run’s faster than his previous best of 3.99 with standard port E-Heads, I’ll be the first one to congratulate Bill, but until then the CV1 is unproven and overhyped. Hell maybe he’ll gain 100 or so CFM only to go a little faster just like how Fulton did lol


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That's up to Mr. Fulton to discuss his program.. I probably shouldn't have spoke for him about the converter.you guys always seem so concerned about what he is up too..feel free to contact him..he is a very nice and humble guy..

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Do u own the sikgoat Billy?

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Mr. Fulton is a very nice and humble guy..
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That's up to Mr. Fulton to discuss his program.. I probably shouldn't have spoke for him about the converter.you guys always seem so concerned about what he is up too..feel free to contact him..he is a very nice and humble guy..
Nah

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