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Old 07-24-2017, 04:21 PM
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Confirming that the gray wire is used when you have an automatic with console.

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Old 07-24-2017, 04:53 PM
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Bob, Mike and the others are correct. I have that same wire in my 74, and it connects to a gray wire feeding the light in my Automatic console gear select indicator.

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Old 07-24-2017, 05:43 PM
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We are batting a thousand so far. Four or five more to go. Here is number three. As you can see it comes right out of the fuse block and has a green, blue and brown wire. Based on the schematic 77CAM posted and the location I am thinking it must be the dimmer switch.






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Old 07-24-2017, 05:56 PM
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Confirming, dimmer switch wiring.

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Old 07-24-2017, 07:40 PM
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Thanks Mike.

A little break from wiring. Got the glovebox door refinished. I bought the original stickers from Ames and wasn't happy, so I bought round two from Jim Osborn. As feared the stickers were the same. I was able to completely remove the old stickers intact and took them to FastSigns hoping they could scan and reproduce a more accurate version, but the transfer material they had was much more of a vinyl and much whiter.

On the tire decal the repro is much bigger than the original. I trimmed it down with a razor blade and it looks better, but many of the fonts are wrong. On the maintenance decal it was the right size, but the white border is much smaller than the original. Here's a few pictures. If anyone is willing to attempt more accurate reproductions I am willing to send you the original decals. I painted the door with SEM Landau Black.




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Old 07-24-2017, 10:06 PM
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Not that it would make a difference, but I notice the P/N on the tire decal is different than the original.

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Old 07-25-2017, 08:01 AM
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Not that it would make a difference, but I notice the P/N on the tire decal is different than the original.
and the standard inflation rear tire pressure 26 versus 28.

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Old 07-25-2017, 08:14 AM
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Yeah, I wonder if Jim Osborn would be interested in the originals so that he could make some corrections and edits to his artwork for these stickers? I would suspect that he has a big inventory already printed....

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Old 07-25-2017, 08:20 AM
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better to keep those faded decals? Best to describe as put in blindfolded on by factory...

Now, repop decals put in with care with misprints...point deductions?

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Old 07-25-2017, 08:46 AM
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In this day and age with computers and great art programs, it is inexcusable for these decals to be so incorrect.

Again, the reproduction market fails to produce and totally disappoints.

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Old 07-25-2017, 11:53 AM
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interesting... I think I just bought a tire inflation decal from Ames - my original is tattered beyond use - so I hadn't taken notice of original versus new...

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Old 07-25-2017, 03:20 PM
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So, I called for Jim Osborn to discuss the decals. The phone was answered by Barb Castle who informed me that Jim Osborn was dead. I explained the purpose of my call, and ultimately sent her the photos comparing the repro decals with the originals. During our discussion she said it sounded like I had ordered the wrong part number decal. I told her it was what they had listed for a 1972 Trans Am and was a KN decal which matched mine, and that the only other 1972 Firebird decal they have listed is a KM. Now maybe GM had a different KN decal for TA's than they did for Formulas, but my Formula has the WS6 handling package so I doubt it. If someone here has a '72 TA with original sticker it would be interesting to hear what your part number is.

Here is the email response I received back from Barb. I'm not sure if she channeled Jim's spirit from the grave, or if maybe he isn't really dead. All in all a strange response.




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Old 07-25-2017, 03:32 PM
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Interesting thread here. Lot's on the 482399 like my original. Cool that Rev 1 had the Pontiac logo instead of the GM logo.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...99#post3172318

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Old 07-25-2017, 03:46 PM
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ha-ha!

look at the goof who started that thread

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Old 07-29-2017, 07:57 AM
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So nobody has other pictures of original tire stickers in 1972 Firebirds?

Darrell is making good progress on the Black Car. The bodywork is mostly done and he got the car in primer yesterday. Next week the rear end get's dropped and the shell will go on the rotisserie to work the bottom. Hopefully I can run up next week and grab the axle and spring assembly. I plan to clean and restore that here and then take it and the front subframe assembly back to supercar for final assembly. Here's a few pictures...





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Looks great Bob...what color of black you going with?

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Old 07-29-2017, 09:00 AM
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"Any customer can have a car painted any color that he wants so long as it is black"

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Looks great Bob...what color of black you going with?
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I'm not sure what it's called, but Darrell has some black paint left over from a F250 collision job...

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Old 07-29-2017, 10:26 AM
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Back in the day black was black. Im not sure are there shades of black?

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Rumor has it that Darrell has the original factory lacquer process in place?

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