[bossbirdta]

...there are Cream Puffs and then there is this 71...the question is, does it qualify even with all the changes and upgrades?...this is from the current Smoke Signals mag...

[Transamric]

Yeah, I saw that one and wondered the same thing myself.
I guess my question would be, if the car has only 8K original miles from new, why make all those major changes? If the person wanted a modernized, street machine style Firebird, go buy another one with normal mileage and build it.
So for my definition of "Cream Puff", nope, not even close.

[2manyT/A'S]

Flush..... .....

That's a Cream Puff....that's gone BAD....

[bird72]

Well, when done by spring we hope (in the works), my 49K original puff will be very oddly desecrated. The only outside visual mod was pulling the 350 grille emblem, but that may go back on... so it will be the puff with T400, HO, sway bars. Inside the cabin the only change will be putting my old 73TA tach in the gauge pod and ditching giant clock. Nixed my urge to put a Formula steering wheel in, as the Custom Cushion wood grain matches the wood dash, and it helps the illusion look. Leaving the Esprit emblems on, I toyed with pulling them. I will love the, "yeah, it's just an Esprit" fun ahead.... kind of a reverse ego thing.... sleeper we hope.

[bird72]

This is a trip.... here is on ebay, essentially my car silver on black 72, minus side stripes.... a bit higher miles, but also an original paint everything car.... should be interesting auction. Give me a today feel for my value.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Pontiac...m=291953856710

[eaglesan13]

Very nice car! It's on their website for 24,950.

http://www.lostandfoundclassiccarco.com/inventory/

Originally Posted by bird72

This is a trip.... here is on ebay, essentially my car silver on black 72, minus side stripes.... a bit higher miles, but also an original paint everything car.... should be interesting auction. Give me a today feel for my value.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Pontiac...m=291953856710

[Transamric]

Where's the poly valance??
Looks like the engine has been out. It seems way too clean underneath compared to the rest of the bottom.
Do we want to start guessing the high bid? I'll say $15,500 to $16,000.

[Formulabruce]

Should bit to 19,700 ish...
Its worth the 25K though. Cant even build one for that. A Nice NOn Hacked car is $$

[bossbirdta]

Originally Posted by Transamric

Where's the poly valance??

definitely appears to have had a valance change?...or at the very least, if its the original, its repainted. my question is, would the poly valance cars originally have the lower flange on the nose blacked out say like a 70 or 71??....almost looks like this one has silver paint down there...

[Transamric]

Originally Posted by bossbirdta

definitely appears to have had a valance change?...or at the very least, if its the original, its repainted. my question is, would the poly valance cars originally have the lower flange on the nose blacked out say like a 70 or 71??....almost looks like this one has silver paint down there...

There would have been no reason to black out the lower bumper flange with a poly valance since it's not seen. I've only had three '72's with their original poly valances, & none had any black there.

[bossbirdta]

Originally Posted by Transamric

There would have been no reason to black out the lower bumper flange with a poly valance since it's not seen. I've only had three '72's with their original poly valances, & none had any black there.

...that would make sense. thanks for clarifying...

[bird72]

Yes my silver has same deal on valance. Metal one on it (warranty repair?). Paint on it is old lacquer, so old repair. and same, lower nose strip, no black. I am not going to put a plastic valance on, car see's Montana roads and durability is a consideration. So wrestling with putting an incorrect black strip on a 72 to match metal valance. Probably just leave it.

"other" silver 72 is at 14.5 , with 3 days left, so looks a strong auction (?)

[bird72]

Silver 72 went to 16,600 and then auction ended early, with one day left. See if new owner surfaces here....

[oldsmobiledave]

Not mine just sharing the cream puff


https://losangeles.craigslist.org/an...013490585.html

Original Numbers Matching 1970 Pontiac Firebird Formula 400

Built at the Van Nuys, CA GM factory. All books and records come with the car, and original factory stickers are present in the engine compartment.

The stock original 400 motor has only 53,346 miles. Automatic transmission, power steering & power brakes.

Mechanically this Bird is in excellent working condition; the car runs & drives great.

Everything on the car is original, and in original condition -- including the Verdara Green exterior paint. The car has been garage kept its entire life; the exterior is in great condition.

Saddle color interior is in excellent condition, and the car has the original radio and working A/C.

This classic Firebird Formula 400 is indeed a rare find. Asking $42,000 OBO. Call or text Joe at 3 one zero 903 three six 59.

[Transamric]

Pretty sure this one's been offered for sale several times before, apparently with no takers. All the pictures are the same as last time.
Gotta love the "Verdara Green" typo. And Saddle interior,.........me thinks much prettier in its' #217 Sandalwood.

[Judge273]

The cream puff definition includes Formulas with 400 engines? What's next?

[Zyman]

Originally Posted by oldsmobiledave

Not mine just sharing the cream puff


https://losangeles.craigslist.org/an...013490585.html

Original Numbers Matching 1970 Pontiac Firebird Formula 400

Built at the Van Nuys, CA GM factory. All books and records come with the car, and original factory stickers are present in the engine compartment.

The stock original 400 motor has only 53,346 miles. Automatic transmission, power steering & power brakes.

Mechanically this Bird is in excellent working condition; the car runs & drives great.

Everything on the car is original, and in original condition -- including the Verdara Green exterior paint. The car has been garage kept its entire life; the exterior is in great condition.

Saddle color interior is in excellent condition, and the car has the original radio and working A/C.

This classic Firebird Formula 400 is indeed a rare find. Asking $42,000 OBO. Call or text Joe at 3 one zero 903 three six 59.

Would love to own that car, but it is priced as if it is a rare RAIII manual trans Formula.

[The Boss]

That is a really nice car - can't put a price on that kind of originality but I suppose you have to.

[HO Kenny]

Originally Posted by Zyman

Would love to own that car, but it is priced as if it is a rare RAIII manual trans Formula.

I'd love to own that car, but it is priced as if it was a RAIV formula. Excuse me I have to feed my unicorn.

[oldsmobiledave]

Originally Posted by Judge273

The cream puff definition includes Formulas with 400 engines? What's next?

My apology for my post. I realize now that the original definition of "cream puff" was the lesser F body cars in stellar original condition.

You are right that a Formula is not a lesser car. I was blinded by the original condition of the car.

Sorry to have wasted your time and muddied up the thread.