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Old 06-12-2023, 02:02 PM
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Old 06-12-2023, 02:45 PM
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Seems like seperate from the frame being able to handle the load, having that much weight so far behind the rear axle would adversely affect handling. That's a huge lever arm. If you were pulling a trailer behind a dually, the trailer would have it's own axle and tires to handle the lateral loads, not to mention the articulating hitch. With that setup it puts everything on the rear axle of the vehicle. Looks sketchy.

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Old 06-12-2023, 07:25 PM
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I see the point being missed is that the ramps are so long because of the vertical level the car gets parked at, you are not going to park the car at the end of ramps. If that bus had Lo Pro tires, and wheels on it, (19.5 wheels) the ramps would be considerably shorter. I still have 2 front wheels off of my bus. I went out and stood next to one, the top of the tire is even with my belt, I'm just under 6 feet tall.

Because school buses travel through secondary roads picking up school kids the wheelbase is short, enabling the bus to traverse 90 degree turns in town. The wheelbase makes it seem like the ramps are longer than they are. The extensions on the rear under the ramps are structural, usually made of square tubing, so it's not just the 2 longitudinal frame rails under the ramps. It's built like a trailer frame. Notice that this truck has lo pro tires, and sits much lower than a school bus conversion does:



I've seen these converted school buses for decades at race tracks, it isn't something new. Never saw one off the road on the way to, or from the race tracks in the last 65 years.

I hope you doubters don't google ramp trucks, because the pictures show some of them with beds as long as the bus ramps are, and most have shorter wheelbases, many based on 1 ton chassis. Some are designed to haul 2 cars in tandem...........

American La France converted fire truck to ramp truck tandem car ramp truck used to haul Ferrari race cars:



Rock crawler going down the interstate completely behind the rear axle of the bus:



The long overhang is so lowered cars have less gradient in climbing to the top, typically there is a lot of real estate left after the car is in place.

Thing is, no one here is going to do a school bus conversion anyway, many convinced it's unsafe, so it's a moot point, debating something that won't ever happen......LMAO

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Old 06-12-2023, 10:08 PM
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Folks are suspicious of what they are
not familiar with and tend to be critical.

If the State of Tennessee deems
this to be safe to be on the road
that should be good enough.

I like it - I would drive it - I understand
the design and walking around it
it doesn’t look like a cheap build.

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Old 06-13-2023, 12:41 PM
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Looking at Post #12 Lower Picture, the race car can be inserted into the last section of the school bus and the heavy engine weight/trans weight be in front of the dual rear tires on each side. The rear section (left of the rear axle) would only have the roll cage weight, rear body weight, and the gas tank weight of the race car.

No issues in my mind.

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I remember seeing a picture of Jack Mullins school bus with his 63 Pontiac wagon on the back. That would be tail wagging.

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Just showed up on Market Place in IL:



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