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Quick Draw Bellhousing and T56 experience?
Does anyone on here have any experience with the Quick Draw bellhousings?
recently came across one that seems like a good deal vs my original plan to get a quicktime SFI bell
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron 68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4 97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil 14 Fiat 500e 83kW motor, 24kWh lithium ion battery, +2 sized summer tires |
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I'm a Quick Time fan and prefer to stick to those. They have always required very little, if any, adjustment to dial them in. Very well made.
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One thing that I liked about the quickdraw was they offered a BOP to LT1 T-56 option the LT1 T-56s tend to go for less and I have seen a lot more of them available The quicktime only has LS option
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron 68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4 97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil 14 Fiat 500e 83kW motor, 24kWh lithium ion battery, +2 sized summer tires |
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That alone might be a good reason to try Quick Draw if they make something Pontiac specific. Sounds interesting.
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Quick Time user here too. Never heard of Quick Draw until now.
They look good and cost as much as a QT bellhousing, but it doesn't appear they are certified and don't have a mid plate. The QT bellhousing are spun formed, whereas the QD bells look like they are just cast. Only issue I had with the QT bell was the header interference, had to clearance one of the sides for my headers.
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1968 Pontiac GTO - Verdoro over Ivy Gold - 400/4-speed/3.08 1987 Pontiac Grand Prix - Sage/Sage/Sage - GM 305/Th200-4r 2004 Pontiac GTO - IBM over Black - LSx 440/6-speed/4.10 SRA - Single Digit Stick Shift |
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I have seen two pictures ( two separate instances) of quick time NOT containing a clutch failure.
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If a steel flywheel lets go all bets are off.
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68 GTO,3860# Stock Original 400/M-20 Muncie,3.55’s 13.86 @ 100 Old combo: 462 10.75 CR,,SD 330CFM Round Port E's,Old Faithful cam,Jim Hand Continental,3.42's. 1968 Pontiac GTO : 11.114 @ 120.130 MPH New combo: 517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's 636HP/654TQ 1.452 10.603 @ 125.09 http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-GTO...lip-31594.html |
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How do you classify this failure? |
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Catastrophic.
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1967 Firechicken, 499", Edl heads, 262/266@0.050" duration and 0.627"/0.643 lift SR cam, 3.90 gear, 28" tire, 3550#. 10.01@134.3 mph with a 1.45 60'. Still WAY under the rollbar rule. |
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Lucky, lucky, lucky. If part of the scattershield is going to remain, it's very fortunate it was the driver's side.
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Mick Batson 1967 original owner Tyro Blue/black top 4-speed HO GTO with all the original parts stored safely away -- 1965 2+2 survivor AC auto -- 1965 Catalina Safari Wagon. |
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The QT fared a little better than a stock aluminum piece. Don’t these things have to pass a destruction test to get an SFI rating or has that changed?
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68 GTO,3860# Stock Original 400/M-20 Muncie,3.55’s 13.86 @ 100 Old combo: 462 10.75 CR,,SD 330CFM Round Port E's,Old Faithful cam,Jim Hand Continental,3.42's. 1968 Pontiac GTO : 11.114 @ 120.130 MPH New combo: 517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's 636HP/654TQ 1.452 10.603 @ 125.09 http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-GTO...lip-31594.html |
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I would hope so. A long time ago, my friend had a 302 dz motor in a 55 chevy. Top of first gear the clutch exploded in front of a new car dealership. Shrapnel from the clutch damaged the radiators in 8 new cars. There were holes in the dash, windshield, severed the drag link. My friend got lucky, he couldn't walk for a few weeks that's about it. My expectations are that a failure will be contained. Are there higher end products? |
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Did a little “Google Research” and found both Lakewood and QT are SFI 6.1 rated which means they are acceptable for NA single disc applications only, and are tested by spinning a 30# steel flywheel to 8K RPM and making it fail.
They probably run the tests until they get one to pass then fill out the documentation and send it in for approval
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68 GTO,3860# Stock Original 400/M-20 Muncie,3.55’s 13.86 @ 100 Old combo: 462 10.75 CR,,SD 330CFM Round Port E's,Old Faithful cam,Jim Hand Continental,3.42's. 1968 Pontiac GTO : 11.114 @ 120.130 MPH New combo: 517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's 636HP/654TQ 1.452 10.603 @ 125.09 http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-GTO...lip-31594.html |
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From the web> "To be fair... the owner of that car did disclose that he made a hole in it for clutch adjustments, didn’t use the block saver plate, so there was no lower structural support.
The hole is where the failure point started. Im sure quick time is getting beat up over something that really wasn’t their fault."
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66 GTO, 495, M22, Strange S-60 w/4.10 Sold new at Royal Pontiac. 70 Formula |
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That sounds like QT won't be responsible for that failure at all. Once you start modifying stuff like that, and not using it as intended, all bets are off.
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Yep, as soon as you modify a SFI certified part in any way it is no longer a SFI certified part.
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68 GTO,3860# Stock Original 400/M-20 Muncie,3.55’s 13.86 @ 100 Old combo: 462 10.75 CR,,SD 330CFM Round Port E's,Old Faithful cam,Jim Hand Continental,3.42's. 1968 Pontiac GTO : 11.114 @ 120.130 MPH New combo: 517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's 636HP/654TQ 1.452 10.603 @ 125.09 http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-GTO...lip-31594.html |
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They will put an adjustment window in one and recertify for a fee.
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FWIW- A chrome-moly liner in a Lakewood-style SFI can offers the best protection. The liner is held stationary by a single 1/4" bolt which is intended to shear, allowing the liner to spin. The friction between the can and liner dissipates much of the energy of broken flywheel/clutch pieces. Anybody know of this setup ever failing?
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Anybody else on this planet campaign a M/T hemi Pontiac for eleven seasons? ... or has built a record breaking DOHC hemi four cylinder Pontiac? ... or has driven a couple laps of Nuerburgring with Tri-Power Pontiac power?(back in 1967) ... or has a Pontiac born the same year as Jim Wangers? (1926} |
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There are others I saw I cannot find them. One had the whole DS torn out. |
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