[Joe's Garage]

Problems that I can see:

Judge emblem obviously in the WRONG place - way too high.

Hood scoops should be satin black.

Reclining seat looks wrong.

Rear bumper isn't hung straight.

Hey, where's my 11/16" socket?
(rusty and sitting on the radiator support...)

Spoiler attaching nuts look weird.

Door edge guards missing.

Still a pretty car. Just not correct enough.

GLWS!

[vertigto]

Originally Posted by thews

74 Ventura with a GTO hood. Supposedly has a 74 455 rebuilt in the 90's and runs well. $1500 NR in Pennsylvania.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Pontia...EAAOSw1IRgdjSA

Ending up going for $6300...thought it would be a little bit more.

[Greg Reid]

Not bad for either party I expect.

[thews]

69 Firebird 400 in Vermont at $200 with a reserve. No idea what the reserve is, but IMO this car is a good example of one that is too far gone to restore for more than you'd have into it. Rust is evil and the evil has gotten into this one deep. Supposedly the original drivetrain.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22443452727...cAAOSwcsNggMoC

[Verdoro 68]

What a shame. Special paint Firebird 400. Could have been a really nice car.

[will slow gto]

Wonder what color it is? Nocturne blue?

[grandam1979]

It will get used as a donor car on a 350 car.

[StevenK]

It's Windward Blue paint which was special order on 69 FB's . Too bad the rust got the better of it but have seen some very ambitious restorations done.

[thews]

Originally Posted by StevenK

It's Windward Blue paint which was special order on 69 FB's . Too bad the rust got the better of it but have seen some very ambitious restorations done.

I wish someone would restore it, but it would have to be someone who knew how to weld body panels and have a donar car. Reality would dictate the drive train is worth $6K to someone, but more often than not the seller thinks a car like this car is worth $10K.

I searched for over 10 years trying to find a WC block for my 69 350 HO with no luck. I then came to the conclusion that even if I did find it, it would never be numbers matching anyway, so why go to all the trouble? I put a 400 in it and it runs fine.

I agree this will probably wind up in a 350 car and there's nothing wrong with that. Better to have one more 400 clone running around than a car like this rot in a field until it's too late.

[thews]

71 GTO NR at $3500 in Missouri.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33397177147...oAAOSwYRtggiFh

[StevenK]

Hey thews,

I had bought a 69 FB windward blue 69 350 HO 4-speed that was in a front end wreck. it had a badly bent frame and body. I sold the WN short block to someone in Wash. who had a cracked block in his. Weird thing that it had the dark green interior. I just could not save this one!

[thews]

Originally Posted by StevenK

Hey thews,

I had bought a 69 FB windward blue 69 350 HO 4-speed that was in a front end wreck. it had a badly bent frame and body. I sold the WN short block to someone in Wash. who had a cracked block in his. Weird thing that it had the dark green interior. I just could not save this one!

Funny you should mention the manual 350HO block. I actually found a WN block on Craigslist. I have 2 69 350 HO convertibles and one is a manual. I searched for "Pontiac 350 WN" on Craigslist and found a match in Wisconsin many years ago. I pinged the guy and he was surprised the ad was still up. Long story he drove the complete engine to Colorado. The thread below on 350 head gaskets shows the failed head gasket in that block. The 400 head gaskets are bigger in diameter than the 350 gaskets and I believe that's what caused the head gasket to fai (note you have to find old NOS 350 gaskets because they don't make them anymore). I'm saving the 4-speed 350HO for retirement as it's completely taken apart, so one day I'll use it. While it won't be "numbers matching" it will be numbers correct, though I don't think that term is a thing?


http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...=712279&page=3

[thews]

69 Firebird in Minnesota that hit its reserve at $10.1K. I hear that purple radiator hose is worth 10hp.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/18478356016...UAAOSwqFRgfz30

[getmygoat]

Originally Posted by thews

Here's an interesting car. 70 GTO Judge at BIN $72.5K. Red/Red with a frame off, you couldn't build this car cheaper starting with a very solid unrestored car. While all the stickers N'such make this like factory new, not driving it would kill me. I love red and this is an awesome car.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Pontia...gAAOSw5jVgfwM9

That's a nice car but with that level of restoration I'm surprised they got the floors wrong.

[thews]

69 GTO convert NR at $1700 in Alberta Canada.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40280838052...AAAOSwE1dghM1p

[Shiny]

That black convertible is striking but I really like the wood trim under the cap on the stone wall.

Sorry but it caught my eye.... like a shiny object.

[OZZIEVILLE 67 2 door]

Black cars are my favourite,
I also like the detail of blockwork fence and gates, the timberwork is the convertible topper.
JL

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[thews]

69 GTO Judge 4-speed at $27.5K BIN in CA. Prolly won't last very long at that price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20338818445...UAAOSwX4BghHV0

[thews]

71 Lime green Judge 455 4-speed at $55.9K BIN/OBO. Don't think this will last long at this price too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/19406526223...kAAOSwXxJghXlu

[thews]

forgot the build sheet.