[ponyakr]

Due to the obvious divide between low budget & max power Pontiac street engine builds, I propose that 2 new sections be added to this site.

These are just POSSIBLE titles for these sections:

(1) Low Budget Street Engines

(2) Max Effort Street Engines

I figure both of these sections would be used MUCH more than many of the current sections on this site. I just scanned thru the sections. Some have not been used in months, and some not in years.

I'd like to hear opinions on the possibility of adding these 2 sections, AND, exactly what is required in order to have these new sections added.

[dataway]

I'd go for a transmission/differential section.

[Navy Horn 16]

The last thing this site needs is more sub-forums.

[72LuxuryLeMansLa.]

no. For me street covers it all.

[ponyakr]

Originally Posted by Navy Horn 16

The last thing this site needs is more sub-forums.

I agree, sorta !

I think they should do away with all those that have not been used in months/years, and add some that will be used a lot.

Doing this would reduce the total number of sections by quite a few.

And, separating the low budget from max power builds, MIGHT reduce the number of ridiculous recommendations, for low budget, low CR, street only engines, some of which will never, or at least very seldom ever rev past 5000 rpm. MANY of the opinions totally ignore the goals of the OP, instead posting what will make much more high rpm power, & posting how quick their car went with more power.

[Jim Moshier]

nope. For me street covers it all

[Steve C.]

And just how and who is going to decide what is a Low Budget Street Engine and a Max Effort Street Engine ! The obvious, everyone has a different budget to work with and opinion.

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Onward thru the fog.




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[Scott Stoneburg]

I think it would limit some exposure to the threads. Some people who now have higher budget builds do have experience with low budget builds. Myself I have done a few low budget builds that produced decent to better than expected results. But now I have the ability to do a more mid range build. Still not max effort. But have benefitted from the experience and advise from people with max effort builds. ...so I dont think the new sections would benefit us.

[dataway]

I'd say the biggest glaring error of this forum is the lack of a Boolean search function.

For instance the ability to search for "Brake + Lines" and only the posts with BOTH of the terms will show up. Right now if you search for "Brake Lines" you'll get every post with either Brake or Lines in it. Makes the search function pretty hard to use when there are hundreds of thousands of posts.
Even just the ability to search for a term in quotes, where it will only return a result if the exact quote is found, would be great.

[Navy Horn 16]

Originally Posted by ponyakr

I think they should do away with all those that have not been used in months/years, and add some that will be used a lot.

Doing this would reduce the total number of sections by quite a few.

If 64speed would just post all of his stuff on the thread that he created for his project, that would clean up the street section quite a bit.

[400 Lemans]

Originally Posted by dataway

I'd go for a transmission/differential section.

I agree.

[6x400gmc]

This is exactly what is needed.

Britt

[Formulajones]

I feel the current street section covers it all. I like both low budget and high budget, but who is to determine what the budget is for a given individual. Everyone has a different opinion of what they consider expensive.

I like budget, but I'll pick quality first over price, and by no means does "budget" insinuate cutting corners. Hence the reason why better suggestions (in some peoples opinion) are given. People will still do what ever they can afford.

I think this forum already has too many sub forums. Most of which doesn't even interest me, and I don't have the time to fish through them all anyway.

[ta man]

Originally Posted by Scott Stoneburg

I think it would limit some exposure to the threads. Some people who now have higher budget builds do have experience with low budget builds. Myself I have done a few low budget builds that produced decent to better than expected results. But now I have the ability to do a more mid range build. Still not max effort. But have benefitted from the experience and advise from people with max effort builds. ...so I dont think the new sections would benefit us.

I agree...and some times low budget builds help high budget builds and vice versa.

[ta man]

We could have trash or be trashed like Yellow Bullet!

[ponyakr]

"...but who is to determine what the budget is for a given individual..."


Just from what I've read, seems like maybe new alum heads & a roller cam might not be what many would consider to be included in a low budget engine.

Even basic iron head engines, built by the big name Pontiac shops will many times cost $10k & more. To me, $10k is not a low budget engine. There are lots of guys who can't spend more than $5k-$6k on an engine, some even less.

But hey, if you got the money, spend it. I would !

[Scott Stoneburg]

Originally Posted by ponyakr

"...but who is to determine what the budget is for a given individual..."


Just from what I've read, seems like maybe new alum heads & a roller cam might not be what many would consider to be included in a low budget engine.

Even basic iron head engines, built by the big name Pontiac shops will many times cost $10k & more. To me, $10k is not a low budget engine. There are lots of guys who can't spend more than $5k-$6k on an engine, some even less.

But hey, if you got the money, spend it. I would !

I agree. I usually do all of my own assembly for budget reasons. And I take pride in being able to. In my 428 builds I tried many different cams choices and gained very little going from a mech. Hyd. Cam to a mech. Solid. Really like the 292 hy. Cam by comp. It worked very well in my combo. There is plenty of power to be made with iron heads and mild cams without spending 10 k on a build

[Steve C.]

Banned items

Bug killer ignition
Electric fan
Electric water pump
Roller cam
290-350 cfm aluminum heads
NOS
Line Lock
Holley carb
Flowmaster mufflers
Single plane intake
3600-5000 RPM converter
3.70, 4.10, 4.30 gears


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[pastry_chef]

Originally Posted by Steve C.

Banned items

Bug killer ignition
Electric fan
Electric water pump
Roller cam
290-350 cfm aluminum heads
NOS
Line Lock
Holley carb
Flowmaster mufflers
Single plane intake
3600-5000 RPM converter
3.70, 4.10, 4.30 gears

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Solid advice for an 11 second car.

[Chris65LeMans]

What about the guys with a $2,000 budget who want a 650 hp street engine that gets good gas mileage, and will make a great daily driver for at least 100,000 trouble-free miles?