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Global west knockoffs
I see a lot of front end upper and lower control arms on eBay that look exactly like the global west units but they hover in the 300 buck range. Anybody use them? Any advantage to them? I would replace the unknown ball joints with moog right off the bat but other than that what's been your experience?
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468/TKO600 Ford thru bolt equipped 64 Tempest Custom. Custom Nocturne Blue with black interior. |
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Well...just my point of view...
I was looking at Global West frt suspension stuff......Del a lum frt bushings But since my latest dealings with Doug and my rear suspension Del a lum bushings .... I would go elsewhere than Global West....Doug was supposed to make me two new bushings for my fame rails ...haven't heard from him since May 12 after a few emails out to him to see what's going on....yet we were conversing about a resolution hence the new bushings that I have not seen...... So if u have an issue with Global West Stuff are u gonna have it resolved.....I haven't..... Anyway there are others out there besides Global West....that I'm sure are just as suitable....
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1973 Firebird Navajo Orange w/shaker,1973 400/461,1972 Intake SD CNC'd,1977 Q-Jet 800 CFM w/ Cliffs Kit,Tanks Inc PA4 255 Walbro intank pump ,-8an feed/return,RobbMc Regulator,RobbMc 40 micron filter,253 CFM 6x-8's w/H.S 1:5 Roller Rockers,SD Stump Puller H/R Cam 230/236 @.050 112 lobe separation 565/.570 lift,Crower Solid Rollers,28150 Hedman Headers,3" exhaust,full tailpipes,350 Turbo,9.5" 3200 Converter,3:42 gear,8.5 posi,C/E slide-alinks,Koni adj frt shocks,Best 12.18@110.55 Lookin for 11's |
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These arent Global West parts they just look like them
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468/TKO600 Ford thru bolt equipped 64 Tempest Custom. Custom Nocturne Blue with black interior. |
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Then might be a better route u have a link...
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1973 Firebird Navajo Orange w/shaker,1973 400/461,1972 Intake SD CNC'd,1977 Q-Jet 800 CFM w/ Cliffs Kit,Tanks Inc PA4 255 Walbro intank pump ,-8an feed/return,RobbMc Regulator,RobbMc 40 micron filter,253 CFM 6x-8's w/H.S 1:5 Roller Rockers,SD Stump Puller H/R Cam 230/236 @.050 112 lobe separation 565/.570 lift,Crower Solid Rollers,28150 Hedman Headers,3" exhaust,full tailpipes,350 Turbo,9.5" 3200 Converter,3:42 gear,8.5 posi,C/E slide-alinks,Koni adj frt shocks,Best 12.18@110.55 Lookin for 11's |
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They're excellent arms if you replace the ball joints
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Global West G-Plus Upper @ $598.75
Global West G-Plus Lower @ $699.85 Clones @ $269.98 Someone should drop Global West a line and see if their products are Made in USA or sourced from overseas. BTW, I have the clones on my car. |
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Do they take factory ball joints?
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468/TKO600 Ford thru bolt equipped 64 Tempest Custom. Custom Nocturne Blue with black interior. |
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Check w. the seller to be sure. I compared mine to Moog at the auto parts store and they looked to be the same size and mounting.
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Are there clones for an F body?
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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Felt inclined to respond with my experience with the lower priced Control Arms. If you are simply using the car as a driver, they are probably going to be fine. If you really enjoy the mountain roads, auto cross, etc.... they are going to fail. The bushings are the issue. After a year of service the bushings were cracked and coming out in pieces. I have since ponied up for the UMI Control Arms that utilize a rod end to adjust Caster and Camber. After several years of service now and several thousand miles, I have had no issues at all. There are no noticeable adverse effects on ride quality either. http://umiperformance.com/catalog/in...roducts_id=956
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1966 GTO Resto-Mod. 2nd owner California car, factory Air, Power Windows, Holley Sniper Quadrajet, MSD Dual-Sync, Gearstar 200-4R, Yank 2400 Stall Converter, HGM Compushift Mini, Heidt's Tall Spindle, UMI Control Arms, Hellwig sway bars, CPP Big Brakes, AR Torque Thrust M, Continental Extreme Contact DW |
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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don't have do much searching to find some horror stories of the ebay chinees A-arms. Some feel they are OK if you change out the ball joints.
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Mine were fine. Paid $249 for complete uppers and lowers. Perfect welds and powder coat, identical to Global West right down to the Del-A-Lum bushings and grease fittings. Nothing substandard in the ball joints either. Dust covers fit snugly, well-plated and finished, good polish and no machining marks on the ball and socket visible. I had no reservations putting them on the car. They fit perfectly, no force fit. The alignment shop was able to align without a single issue. Are they track worthy? Don't know. don't care. My goal was an upgraded, modern suspension with good road feel, good on-center steering feel, OEM ride height (slight forward rake) and a firm but comfortable ride. Toward that end I installed UMI rear control arms, progressive wound rear Moog springs, Moog OEM front springs, the "clones", KYB gas shocks and Addco sway bars front and back, all new OEM replacement steering linkage and a Jeep GC steering box from Autozone (that doesn't leak and doesn't have excessive backlash). Despite installing "all the cheap sh!t" the car drives like it's on rails and is much more relaxed running at speed than before (stock) with the additional caster from the new control arms and the more precise steering box.. It's not twitchy, goes where it's pointed and doesn't bounce like a bronco or ride like a buckboard. Again, my goals may have been different than those building a "track car." |
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From what I remember a few of the failures were ball joint related and I do remember one of the arms themselves failed. I think they said the welds were mig welded not tig welded on the knock offs.
I guess why would you even buy aftermarket A-arms unless you were going to push it a little. And if you are going to be pushing it is worth the risk? For me that is why I will steer clear. |
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Moog makes the CC501 but their application chart says they fit 1967-1972 only.
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Thanks just ordered some from summit. Gonna send the station wagon coils back
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468/TKO600 Ford thru bolt equipped 64 Tempest Custom. Custom Nocturne Blue with black interior. Last edited by 64speed; 06-11-2017 at 10:59 PM. |
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A friend of mine tried the knockoffs and they didnt fit. You might get lucky, then again you might not.
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Yeah, this has been up here before.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...r+control+arms
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