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#141
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Awesome sleeper!!!
I hope Jim Hand has seen this thread!
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... |
#142
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Thanks Lloyd and 77 Trashcan,
This one, or the 400 Tempest will be at this years Pure Stock Drags (parked - not racing since I'll be busy running the show with Dan & Lyndon). If I bring the LeMans, I may sneak out on the track for a run or two. Dennis |
#143
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Lemans getting a new heart...
Well, time to resurrect this old thread on the old girl...it seems Dan and I can't leave things well enough alone, actually, it's all my fault. The '70 YH 455 motor was pulled out of the Lemans as it (with '71 455HO top end) is going into the '71 GT-37, and the 462 front the '70 Tempest is the Lemans' new motor with swap to a iron intake and Q-jet carb. It will have the RARE Ram Air exhaust manifolds too, so we have to swap out head pipes. The Tempest is getting a new XV 400 4-bbl motor still at the machine shop.
I'm thinking about adding power steering to the Lemans since it is a handful to drive with the 4-speed and the skinny & slippery wood wheel! Dennis |
#144
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You guys sure have some neat cars!
Iam surprised that this car isn't staying with the standard exhaust manifolds though.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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Dennis |
#146
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I think that as a matter of being a car enthusiast, most every one of us suffers from this ailment
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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Motor on the left is the 455HO for the GT-37; .040 over 455, 8.5 to 1 compression, 2802 Summit cam, forged internals. Estimating 405 hp/506 torque.
Motor on the right is the 462 for the Lemans 4-dr 4-speed; .030 400 block with 4.25" strock crank, 041 copy cam, 6x8 heads with SD perf 260 cfm cnc work, 2.5" RARE RA manifolds, forged internals. Dyno'd 450hp/550 torque. Getting closer and no break-in necessary...easy peasy! Dennis |
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Has anyone ever installed a 1970 GTO nose on such a car- 4 door hardtop or post sedan? Any pictures of such?
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1970 Lucerne Blue Firebird Trans Am, deluxe blue interior. Original Ram Air III, M-21, 3.73. Being built as a 4" stroke "434" with SR 614 Ram Air IV heads 1972+ Lucerne Blue 4-door hardtop "what if" T-41 Le Mans Sport GT/Grand Am concepts. Equipped with future 3" journal "455 HO"/"what if" prototype "SD 455". What if GM had continued production of the 1970-72 GM A body somewhere in the southern hemisphere? |
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What a great thread! Being that I still have the 70 LeMans my dad bought in 75 it really hits home! Great progress on this car!
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#150
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Thanks 1965gp...any pictures of your Lemans Sport 4-dr?
Dennis |
#151
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Here is a pic of my 70. It’s not a sport or a 4 door though. I love seeing the less obvious cars being taken care of |
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Nice! Agreed, I like to see the non-GTO and cars we ignored and thrown away. The few that remain turn heads now at the car shows.
Dennis |
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I may be in the minority here, but I have always liked the '70 Tempest bumper over the 71/72 bumper;
they're all great cars, but it seems like most prefer the 71/72 nose. Not me. @1965gp - looks great! did you lower it, or is that (like how my Firebird was) just tired front springs?
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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Back when I got my first car (Pontiac of course) it was a factory 350-2v 68 Lemans hardtop 2 door with Hurst shifted M20 Muncie and open 3.23 , cameo Ivory with red buckets no console. The Z bar broke at the pivot stud area by block and amazing the local wrecking yard by my Dad's place in the later 80's (Blackland wrecking) said they had one.
I go to pull it and its a 69 Liberty Blue Lemans 4 door hard top 350-2v with bucket seats and rally II's and factory Hurst floor shifted (3 ? ) speed stick also no console. What a rare car that must have been...…
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63 Catalina coupe 467 cid budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.20 1/8th pump gas n/a 66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile 67 IH Scout project 2WD "Indian Scout" 69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4 69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black 70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's 70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455 74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8 2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi 2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd |
#155
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Unruhjonny- you are spot on. This car has about 220,000 miles on it (original unrebuilt motor Trans and rear!) and the suspension is just a little tired.
Ironically there was a suspension company (maybe PST) that stole a pic of this car before it was done (still had white 67 seats in it) and used it for their advertisements in Smoke Signals. I called them and asked them how they got the pic and they were complete A$$holes about it saying it wasn’t my car (complete with green interior, white seats,etc) so I asked them how their customers would like to know they are using a car with stock 200,000 mile plus suspension to sell their ‘cutting edge’ products. I didn’t want them to stop using it, I just wanted the story of why they chose it. If they hadn’t been so rude about it I wouldn’t have cared. I think they quit using it. |
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Thanks Douglas, yes, still in my possession, part of the family for 40 plus years now, but has been off the road for many years. I've seen 70 GTO fronts on wagons, but never a 70 4 door sedan. I have seen 71 4 door hardtops with the endura front though.
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Thanks Steve!
Glad to read it still exists. Way too many 4 door hardtops parted/crushed etc by those failing to recognize their potential, even particularly weirdly so in the past near two decades when they were no longer 5-15 year old "used cars". White with blue is a particularly great color, especially as it roughly mimicks the Trans Am. Seems there should be some of these cars - hardtop or even post sedan - factory ordered with the 400, or 455 (if 1971-1972), yet have yet to see it. But even if a not so desirable color, std 350 2b, would be nice to find more of these 4 door hardtops for some interesting touring car builds. Recently obtained a 1972 Luxury LeMans, original 350 2b gone, but thankfully blue inside and out, with no vinyl roof. My plan is to build it as a "what if" Luxury LeMans Sport (Pontiac only offered the 4 door hardtop LeMans Sport for 1970-71, and also dropped the LeMans 4 door hardtop, making the LML the only such intermediate Pontiac 4 door hardtop for 1972. Would love seeing more photos of you 70 LM 4drhtp. Am curious to see how the dash looks with right hand drive.
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1970 Lucerne Blue Firebird Trans Am, deluxe blue interior. Original Ram Air III, M-21, 3.73. Being built as a 4" stroke "434" with SR 614 Ram Air IV heads 1972+ Lucerne Blue 4-door hardtop "what if" T-41 Le Mans Sport GT/Grand Am concepts. Equipped with future 3" journal "455 HO"/"what if" prototype "SD 455". What if GM had continued production of the 1970-72 GM A body somewhere in the southern hemisphere? |
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' |
#160
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here's one in south jersey.
https://southjersey.craigslist.org/p...879185692.html |
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