[weranc55]

I would like to freshen up the engine compartment this summer. Planning on pulling the motor. I don’t know Ra2’s that well and want to correct as much as I can. This is what I have so far.

Clutch fan incorrect
Heat shield?
Clamp on ps hose
Wrong master
Temp sending unit

[Scott Thelander]

I dont wanna be the guy but ,,,

being a 68 guy by heart

its lookin goood underthere ,,,,,,,,,,!!!
a few tid bits maybe ...

incorrect oil fill cap
no front alternator bracket
wrong water pump bolts ?? I dont see the cross hatch heads ...
over flow hose clip on radiator ,,,, radiator tag ,,
dual carb spring?? color s yellow n blue
425 coil ,,,,, hmmmm
wrong nut on the power steering pump maybe also ,,, I see alot of castle lock nuts on ole originals

nice to see you use it !!!

any running you tube videos ???

4 speed also eh !!??

nice !!!

[weranc55]

Thanks yup 4 speed.

These correct?

[Scott Thelander]

not really
and
yes
hopefully some one has some originals for you ,,,
I have seen a couple engine s with brackets that the slots dont line up welll
always wondered ifone was a repro and 1 an original ,,, like one slot was longer than the other bracket,,,
and
fairly sure we had a big S on the rivet in the center,,,
I would just add a couple correct items under your hood and keep drivin it !!
I enjoy looking at nice driven original cars .... rather than shiney restos

[Brewster]

Looks nice why pulling it? The only thing my old eye's notice is that Oil Fill Cap. Throw on a AC-FC2 is my guess but most likely wrong Nothing like learning a new year let alone new hp motor. Enjoy and do keep sharing. Cheers

[OG68]

Not an expert with the RAII but;

Coil should be a 288.
My original oil cap looks like yours

[Tellyshavilli]

Get a original carb on there to 7028273 XX
And your clutch fan is wrong Get a 4 blade cheapey

[weranc55]

Originally Posted by Tellyshavilli

Get a original carb on there to 7028273 XX
And your clutch fan is wrong Get a 4 blade cheapey

Four blade or 5?

[68pongto]

Originally Posted by weranc55

Four blade or 5?

No, all 68 Ram Air cars used the standard 4 blade fan like this. Also, your water pump pulley should be plated silver cad/zink, not painted black.

[weranc55]

Originally Posted by 68pongto

No, all 68 Ram Air cars used the standard 4 blade fan like this. Also, your water pump pulley should be plated silver cad/zink, not painted black.

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Thanks

[weranc55]

Originally Posted by 68pongto

No, all 68 Ram Air cars used the standard 4 blade fan like this. Also, your water pump pulley should be plated silver cad/zink, not painted black.

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What spacer do I need?

[gtohurstjudge]

Originally Posted by 68pongto

No, all 68 Ram Air cars used the standard 4 blade fan like this. Also, your water pump pulley should be plated silver cad/zink, not painted black.

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I've been working on Pontiacs in my shop for 50 years and I've never seen or heard tell of a silver cad water pump pulley on a GTO or Firebird.....I notice in the pics posted below that the pulley is black and I believe that to be correct.

[Mcronk]

In post #9 from 68pongto you can see the part number for water pump pulley for cars with power steering (9786819).

Power steering pulley is 9786900. Alternator most likely is the standard 37 amp 1100704. A/C cars got a higher amp alternator or possibly cars loaded with electrical accessories or heavy duty fleet service.

I am still looking for a manual trans PA code radiator.

Interesting thing Jim Mino told me about date codes for RA II cars. This is what he told me. "Most of the RA II parts were done in batches March and April 1968. A RA II 4 speed car I sold years ago had the original engine and all the components intact. It had a very late (July 10) invoice but the block, intake, exhaust manifolds, and carburetor all had April (D code) casting dates. The distributor had the same 87C (March 68) as the other 3 I have and others I have seen. Apparently the acceptable range of casting dates to invoice date does not always apply to RA II cars. There are some exceptions like cylinder heads".

We know there were several runs of RA II heads including service replacement runs. I would assume components that the RA II cars shared with the standard GTO/Tempest line would follow the normal acceptable range for date codes.

[weranc55]

Gonna try to put a few more miles on it this weekend.

[weranc55]

This was the original radiator I pulled out of the car. Look correct?

[Mcronk]

First two engine pictures are of the Aegena Blue car. It is a automatic manual steering and brakes so a few differences. I have attached pictures of the fan and spacer I sold Jim Mino. They came off a 68 Tempest Custom 350 2bbl. Also will attach pictures of Jim Mattisons RA II GTO that sold at BJ in 2016 (last engine picture). It is very correct but does appear to wear reproduction RAIV exhaust manifolds.

I have seen pictures of the heat shield. From what information I have gathered the cars were shipped with closed hood scoops and standard air cleaner/heat shield. The RA pans and open scoops were in the trunk. Dealers installed them and painted the scoops to match the car.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

The Automatic Aegena Deuce was from Muscle_Collector stock.

The 4spd Aegena Deuce was a field find on eBay - different car.
Was being sold as a parts car/project on eBay and he scooped it up for cheap.
Very un-touched in engine bay/engine departments
yellow66gto or something like that
He had as-found engine / engine bay pics

Exh Shield was present as-found , still mounted in place.

[Mcronk]

Thanks for clarifiation. Did not know there were two documented Aegena Blue cars out there. The pictures I have were from the MCACN event. I am collecting as much information about these as I can to better educate myself and correct things on my car. Picture attached is the car that I showed engine pictures for.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Yes, the one you pictured is the one Gary Oklahoma sold (after decades of ownership).
Purchaser restored the car.

The 4spd Aegena Deuce had Black Interior and Poverty Caps.
He did a frame-off himself , and then sold it.
#'s drivetrain intact - had been left in a field for a long time.
No one else recognized what it was on eBay - i don't know how he did.

The eBay picture of engine was of driver side - and low quality.
The exhaust shield completely blocked view of exhaust manifold and center ports to tell if it was Base, HO, Ram1 or Ram2
The shield probably made most viewers suspect it was a WT Base engine car.
If the engine was even original - or a low-po replacement of some sort.
No specifics were given on the listing.
Dream Deal for the PY'er who scooped it up.

[weranc55]

Since mine has power steering do you think I would get a different fan and spacer?